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You’re not escaping work just because you’re passionate about something.

Ben Greenman

This conversation is proof that you don’t need Big Name Guests to make a good podcast.

Today I’m joined by Ben Greenman (@iambenforreal). Ben Greeman is a graphic designer and writer. Ben’s been reading my blog and listening to the show for awhile now. He always leaves insightful comments and so I thought I’d have him on the show for a chat. He crushed all expectations. Our talk lasted for 2 hours. It felt like 2 seconds.

In this episode we cover…

  • How did Ben discover the digital creator culture? (6:00)
  • Twitter reflects what your life (12:00)
  • What makes writing difficult? (17:00)
  • Why publish, even after you become ‘successful’? (28:00)
  • Creativity is a service (30:00)
  • Value-market-fit > product-market-fit (36:00)
  • Never manipulate your interests for the sake of a trend (38:00)
  • “You’re not escaping work just because you’re passionate about something” (42:00)
  • “What is this influx of influencers doing to our actual desires?” (50:00)
  • The infinite staircase problem (57:00)
  • Reverse engineering my goals (59:00)
  • Variety is a niche (1:05:00)
  • Health, wealth, wisdom, what about fun? (1:00:00)
  • Bands are good marketers (1:17:00)
  • Fans want to hear the band progress (1:22:00)
  • Self-help and philosophy (1:26:00)
  • History isn’t multiple choice (1:35:00)
  • Is optimism a sign of intelligence? (1:42:00)


Writer’s Bloc – Write Better, Together

Jack Butcher

Tyler Cowen (Blogging everyday for 20 years)

John Daub – Creator of OnlyInJapan with John Daub

Salman Ansari

Joseph Campbell

Lex Fridman

Super Mario 64

Mumford & Sons


Please enjoy!

Cheers, and here’s to your good health.

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