Daniel De la Fé is an artist and cohost of the podcast ‘Dangerous Rhetoric’. In 2020 he published a book of poetry called “The Manhattan Poems,” documenting the borough amidst the lockdowns. In this conversation Daniel and I raise the middle finger to America’s infatuation with censorship, vaccine passes, lockdowns, kids books about Fauci, woke, while raising a glass to creativity, art, spirituality, and freedom. Daniel also reads me some of his poetry, so stick around for that.

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